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Anthro Gallery - Proposed Additions

Journal Entry: Thu Nov 29, 2012, 4:33 PM
Hello Anthro Community!

I hope you are all doing well! So I have something to bring up to you all and something that I'd like to discuss and get your feedback on. While browsing through the Anthro gallery I've noticed that our gallery doesn't have a lot of meat to it once you are in a parent folder. For example I've noticed the "Anthro" gallery itself does not have many sub categories available in "digital art" and "traditional" art. It's very few with just 3D, Drawings, Oekaki, Other, Paintings and Vector.

With Anthro art there is a lot of different 'types' of subjects. ie: feline, canine, bovine, equine, fantasy. etc. Because of the few categories we currently have I feel this might be one of the reasons why there are so many miscats in our gallery simply because we don't have the option you want or feel applies.

So what I need from you guys is feedback. Let me know what you think of my proposed idea's for the gallery! please leave a comment in this journal with your thoughts and opinions and pass this around to as many as you can! I want to get as many voices from the Anthro Community as I can!





Question #1


Does this seem practical? Should we stick to just the popular subjects like "canine, feline, reptile etc" and allow the rest for "other"?
This is what I was thinking we could add to Digital Art / Traditional Art for the Anthro gallery but include relevant categories. Perhaps we should add in categories from both traditional and digital to anthro?

 It would look something like this: 

 

  • Anthro
    1. Digital Art (change to Digital art from not Digital Media)
          3- Dimensional
              Drawings
                    Amphibian Avian Canidae Celestial Bodies Elementals Fantasy Feline Reptile Mythology Other
          Mixed Media Paintings & Airbrushing Photomanipulation Pixel Art Vector Vexel



Question #2


Is there another suggestion you would like to make for the Anthro Gallery as a whole? What you think might work better then the above solution? Would you like to see other categories added to Anthro? 

 
 

 


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:iconelysianimagery:
ElysianImagery Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Anthro

Digital Art (change to Digital art from not Digital Media)
3- Dimensional
Drawings
Amphibian
Avian
Canidae
Celestial Bodies
Elementals
Fantasy
Feline
Reptile
Mythology
Other


Mixed Media
Paintings & Airbrushing
Photomanipulation
Pixel Art
Vector
Vexel


I approve so highly for this. It's too long been just all lumped together, though I am glad that there was at least an "anthro" section even added to begin with. While I do not do a lot of anthro art anymore these days, I do still think that the sub-catagories would help.
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2012  Professional General Artist
Thank you for your thoughts <3
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:iconelysianimagery:
ElysianImagery Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Absolutely! There are so many good people in the Anthro community that have been very close friends/inspiration/mentors to my art over the years. Least I can do is put in an opinion. Thank you for the reply!
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2012  Professional General Artist
Again, I really appreciate it! Thank you so much :heart: Have a splendifrous day!
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Katmomma Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Professional Artist
If you're going to go into specific categories like that, please include cervine/bovine hoofed animals too.Otherwise, using "feline" and "canine" without touching on all the animal classifications will leave the rest lumped together....looking un-special.
I would highly suggest a general Mammals category if you are using "amphibian" and Reptile".
Mammals
Reptiles
Amphibian
Avian
Fantasy
Elemental
Mythology

Don't make a category called "furries"- It's unnecessary.
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Professional General Artist
Yea, I think I will go with most peoples suggestions :) Making it less 'specific' and going with the more general feel. ie: Mammals, Fantasy, Mytholgy. Keeping it simple.

Thanks for your insight!
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Marijke-Rose Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, guess I could recommend checking out what all different catergories FurAffinity has - as they ARE the anthro/furry-based Gallery site. They have tons of great catergories for anthro art.

An important thing that should probably be considered, are the catergories:

*Furries
*Anthroes (Because some artists seem to make a big deal out of there being a difference between "furry" and "anthro")
*Gijinka (or "anime 'cat'-girl" for example)
*Mascot (think you know what a masscot is)
*Fursuit
*Cosplay

Then probably the subcatergories of mythical, feline, canine, scalie, avion, reptilian, etc..


I... I dunno.

I'd like "Pokemorphs", but that's just me.
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Professional General Artist
Thank you so much for your feedback, I really appreciate it <3
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WolfgangtheHusky Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Personally I think this would be very useful, as sometimes I find it difficult to place a specific piece within/ under a certain category. :/
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Professional General Artist
Thank you for your insight!
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WolfgangtheHusky Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Np ^^
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Kampidh Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hmm, I agree of the idea about narrowing the sub category into small numbers like your reply to Surzsha's comment. As mentioned a lot before, it would be troublesome if there are more than one species in a picture (which might lead someone to put it more on the 'other' section).
And as for searching a specific species, I'd also prefer to search from the tags given.
For the other suggestion, I suggest a comic category as well.
Regards
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Professional General Artist
I appreciate your feedback, thank you! Yes, I would love to see a comic category as well too :)
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:iconkai-dragoness:
Kai-Dragoness Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't know about now, but when I uploaded this [link] back in 2009, I couldn't put it in anthro because for some reason transparent GIF files weren't acceptable.
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Professional General Artist
So you would like to see maybe a 'gif' section for anthro?
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:iconkai-dragoness:
Kai-Dragoness Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah that would be nice :)
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:iconworkshop:
workshop Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
1. I think categorizing by subject of animals becomes way too convoluted because there are too many types of animals for categorization to be effective. If I wanted to look up canines I'd use search for them instead, and it's better to just have it as a keyword/tag meta data instead for specifying animals that aren't in the proposed category (such as mustalids, or more specific species like koala or whatever).

2. Can't think of suggestions for the anthro gallery specifically. I'd like to see autocomplete functionality on they keywords field, so it's easier to add that meta data. This would benefit anthro art and any other gallery if keywords are easier to enter (with proposed suggestions to keywords specific to the gallery).
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Professional General Artist
Yes, I agree :) Thank you so much for your insight!
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frostybiite Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Q1: I think it's a great idea, and I think the current categories should be made sub-categories in the new ones. But I think it'll be complicated for art pieces with multiple species in it. Surely we can create a "Mixed" category or something like that?
Or maybe we could make some tags? So users can tag their artworks "canine", "feline", etc.? Since we probably can't cover everything that can be anthro-ed in this world. ;)
Q2: I think there should be a category for anthropomorphic items too. You know, objects can be anthro to, can't they? :P
P.S: Also, what if deviants don't understand the categories? Not everyone know what "avian" or "canidae" is you know :meow:
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Professional General Artist
Thanks for your input! :heart: As of right now the only way to tag your stuff is to add in keywords. But I'm willing to guess that not a lot of people keyword their stuff.

Anthropomorphic art is anything with human characteristics. So... the amazing little toaster is considered 'Anthro'. ;)

Yea, I will have to go back and add peoples suggestions. I think it's clear that that form of categorizing won't work. As per all the other peoples suggestions ^^
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FerretWilliams Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012   Digital Artist
I often have comics with anthro canines, felines and rodents, so splitting them up would be useless for me. There are surely a ton of Canidae/Feline submissions out there. Keywords can sort the species thing out just fine while allowing multiple species. The categories were intimidating to me when I first started DA 5 years ago, which is a main reason why I haven't posted much. Personally, I don't see much use in separating digital from traditional art since you often can't tell a difference either way, although I know there are plenty that are unmistakably digital.
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KovoWolf Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Professional General Artist
Yes, I do agree : ) It would be nice to have a comics section either in Anthro gallery or in the comics section itself.

What do you feel would make the categories less intimidating? How do you think we could improve on this or, at least make it less intimidating on deviants trying to submit art?
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:iconferretwilliams:
FerretWilliams Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012   Digital Artist
I don't think there's much that could be done to make the categories less intimidating without knocking out most categories. Basically, there were just too many to choose from. I just wanted to classify my comics as "comic strip", which is 4 levels deep in the category menu, and the first subcategory is digital or traditional. My comics were a mix of digital and traditional at first, so I wasn't sure which I needed to choose. Now my comics are all digital, although with black and white comics with no grayscale... digital and traditional looks exactly the same.
Add to this, that a comic strip can be other things, such as anthro. Maybe it's an anthro photomanipulation 3D comic with traditional art included. When I was new to the website, it just looked like a maze with too many correct options. I figure now, as long as it's a comic strip done digitally, it goes in the Cartoons & Comics > Digital Media > Comics > Strips category no matter what it contains. Single-panel comics could go in other categories, though.
When I was new, it looked like I would have to go through the maze each and every time. Even now that I know about the Frequently Used list, that list looks like a mess.
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:iconlucas420:
lucas420 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i agree! soo much!! Q - Q the anthro section is so limited... : /
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Professional General Artist
:hug:
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KettouRyuujin Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Student Writer
To answer question #1, I think that would be a very good idea. It'd help people find art of certian species without having to use the browse function. If you have to get rid ofsomething, then I'd get rid of categories such as "Elementals" and "Celestial Bodies",
Speaking of "Celestial Bodies", I am curious as to just what it would contain. I've got a gut feeling as to what it could be, but I still want to get an official answer. And what is the difference between "Fantasy" and "Mythology" anyways?

For question #2, I would suggest adding a "mammal" category to the list of sub-categories, alongside "Canidae" and "Feline". This would give those people who draw anthro mammals other than dogs or cats (i.e. elephants and bats) a place to put their art outside of "other". For like reasons, I would suggest the addition of an "aquatic" sub-category for things like sharks, fish, or dolphins (even though they are mammals).
I would also suggest adding a writing category to the gallery in additon to the "Digital Art"/"Digital Media" and "Traditional Art"/"Traditional Media" categories, so anthro writers would ahve a place to put their stories.

Please reply letting me know what you think, and I'll post again if it turns out I've forgotten something. Thanks!
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Professional General Artist
Hello!

Thanks for your feedback! As far as your question about celestial bodies. That would be something like a moon that has a face, or a sun that has a face for example.

I do like your suggestions indeed! I think, however, as others have stated it might be way to cumberssome (and cluttered) to have all the species and the like layed out into a gallery. I think if we kept to the basics like mixed media, fantasy, mythology, literature etc. I think it might help keep it from being subjected to limiting other people out; because their gallery wouldn't be there and they'd be forced to submit to other.
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KettouRyuujin Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Student Writer
I understand what you are saying here. However, I think there is one problem with your example layout: a drawing of, say, an anthro elephant or anthro shark would be forced to be put in the "other" sub-category (I think I'm using the right term here... let me know if I'm wrong), while if there were "mammal" and "aquatic" sub-categories this wouldn't happen. I can see why you have seperate sub-categories for canines and felines as they are so popular, but what about the other mammals? I'm not saying you have to have all the species layed out, I'm just saying you should have a couple more "blanket categories" so less people will have to send stuff to the dreaded "other" category. This is why I suggested the "mammal" and "aquatic" sub-categories.

From your response, I got the feeling that there may have been a misunderstanding somewhere. Hopefully this rectifies it.
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Professional General Artist
Yes, I do agree with you! as per my response. I will be modifying this post soon with the suggestions from everyone! I think that having it to specific will be too cluttered and leave some important scenarios out.
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KettouRyuujin Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Student Writer
Alright, so I misunderstood you. And yeah, generality is good here.
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Professional General Artist
No worries at all! :heart: I appreciate your feedback all the same!
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:iconkettouryuujin:
KettouRyuujin Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Student Writer
Nice to know.
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Curiosajess Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Student General Artist
To be honest, I think the anthro folder is great as is. Don't most anthro artists have a Furaffinity anyway?
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Professional General Artist
Aye but it would be nice to have more options for our anthro community here. I think we should at least add some more basic categories like fantasy and the like :) Maybe not so detailed as above but add a few more categories that our gallery doesn't have.
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Otterbane Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You're going to have butthurt over "my chosen species/genus is not featured" no matter how many categories you choose.

Suggestion: On submission within an anthro category, have a checklist type selector? This allows for multiple characters, hybrids, etc.
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Professional General Artist
Yes, I do agree with you! As others have suggested as well we shouldn't make it as detailed or specific.

:heart: thanks for your input and suggestion!
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ll Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Professional General Artist
Not sure if this has been mentiond yet or not, but given some of my anthro work involves both canines and felines sometimes in the same picture, if you were breaking the gallery down into species it'd be useful to have some sort of "mixed group" catagory. I like the idea of seperating out furry art from inanimate objects/concepts - people forget that anthro doesn't just cover cat girls and animals :)
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KovoWolf Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Professional General Artist
Yes, I do agree indeed and a few people have brought this up :heart: Do you think those collaborations of different species should be "other", "mixed" ?
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ll Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Professional General Artist
well "other" seems a bit too generic, but "mixed" possibly implies ligers and lizard centaurs to me, "mixed group" I guess would be more specific to what i was thinking of i guess :)
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Professional General Artist
Thanks for your feedback as well are your suggestion!
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:iconll:
ll Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Professional General Artist
no probs, best of luck with your project! :)
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Dogman15 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
I personally like the idea of categorizing by subject type/species, and not just medium type (i.e. digital or traditional).
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Professional General Artist
*nods* Thanks for your input!
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stevethepocket Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Eh. FurAffinity basically tossed out their own drop-down categorization system in favor of just tagging everything (basically exactly like dA's keywords). The drop-downs still exist, for whatever reason, but I'm not sure their search engine even looks at them anymore. As far as I know, competing sites just use keywords exclusively. For something like species, that seems to be fine. Anyone who draws furry art and doesn't put the species in the keyword box is Doing It Wrong, in my opinion.

Come to think of it, deviantART doesn't allow multi-word tags, do they? That's something that would be very handy in general, especially for characters who have full names or fan art of stuff with multi-word titles.
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KovoWolf Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Professional General Artist
Aye, I can see how it can become a huge cluster! So I think if we keep it simple (like many have suggested) that I think it will work for the better. Include a few more categories that are not present in the anthro gallery currently.

Are you talking about adding keywords to the deviations? For the multi-word tags.
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stevethepocket Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah. I checked just now and, yep, they say to separate them with a space, so that means one word at a time.
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BagelCollector Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012   General Artist
I think this sounds wonderful!
Give the anthro category a bit of uniqueness, but I do wonder how this will work for multiple characters?

I think we should be allowed a "multiple characters" option for each sub category as well just to keep it fair. (but keep the "other" option in there as well)

This definitely would add a bit of personality and interactivity to the anthro submissions on the site :D
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Professional General Artist
As others have mentioned, I think it would be best not to be as specific as the examples above but to be more generic like "fantasy, mythical etc.".

I do appreciate your input, thank you!
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BagelCollector Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012   General Artist
Yes, I agree :)
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