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Complaints about quality declines in DDs

Let's take a quick look at what a Daily Deviation is first. You might remember this article from our last PE week A Daily Deviation is NOT an award, but a feature. If you haven't already, you might want to take a look at it! It's a great read and you can get a good foundation as to what a Daily Deviation stands for.

So, I'll be touching on the subject of "Complaints about quality declines in Daily Deviations". Why is this so important to touch on? That's a great question and I will be more than happy to answer it below as I describe some key factors that are often overlooked in the way of art vs quality.


Addressing Quality of Deviations

"A picture is worth a thousand words." 

There is a lot of this going around "Daily Deviations are losing quality. They're not as beautimous as they used to be.".  How about we step out of the shoes of "what is and isn't art" for just a second and take a step back. Art is growing in both genre, medium, and style. The Community Volunteer team is ever growing. Because of this growth, the diversity of deviations you see featured on DeviantART are being expanded and touching more corners of DeviantART that otherwise might be surpassed. More galleries ( and sub galleries) are being featured!  This is where people start to question quality.

"The aim of art is to represent not the outward appearance of things, but their inward significance." - Aristotle


With more galleries comes diversity and that diversity is what people tend to not appreciate. Even more so when you dig deeper into the gallery itself and feature from the sub-categories. There's such a wide variety available to the community that it allows artists to provide our galleries with unique art from around the globe and touching every technique and style that is both unique to DeviantART and the world of art.

Art is defined as

art  /ärt/ Noun
    The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture,...: "the art of the Renaissance"
Dictionary.com


Art is created by skill and imagination. There is no limitation. Art is an expression, a feeling, an emotion, a song, a poem, or a stroke on a canvas. It is the expression of an individual.

It's the "Technique" that people tend to fuss over rather than the quality of imagination. If you're going to argue over technique then think of it this way, if you are spatting at an art piece just because it doesn't meet your standards of quality because of the artists technique then think of all the other famous artists that you're throwing in the trash as well. Such as Vincent van Gogh, Pablo Picasso, Edvard Munch, Jean-Michel Basquiat and all the other famous artists whose styles were not based on commonly accepted techniques but rather based on an internal vision on what they thought was beautiful. It may not be beautiful to you, but that doesn't mean it isn't Art. Art truly is in the eye of the beholder.





"To say that a work of art is good, but incomprehensible to the majority of men, is the same as saying of some kind of food that it is very good but that most people can't eat it." - Leo Tolstoy

 


Quality vs Opinion



Looking at a piece of art work and expressing your opinion is a result of your emotional interpretation of that art piece. It's the result of your perspective or particular feelings. An opinion is a belief or judgment that falls short of absolute certainty. There is nothing wrong with sharing your opinion with the rest of the world about a piece of art that you may or may not like, but being negative about it and not inputting constructive criticism does little to progress your experiences with art in a meaningful way. Not for the artist and not for yourself.

So try to be open to all variety's of art that are expressed throughout DeviantART and featured on a daily basis! If you come across a piece of art, or art that is featured on DeviantART as a Daily Deviation and their technique isn't to your liking, please be respectful to the artist and their art. :heart:



F.A.Q's


FAQ #873: What do I do when I disapprove of a Daily Deviation feature?
FAQ #18: Who selects Daily Deviations and how are they chosen?
FAQ #61: What is a Daily Deviation?
FAQ #313: How can I find out if someone already has a Daily Deviation?





Resources
1. Artwork images from Google Web Search
2. Quotes - Brainyquotes.com



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:icongeak-of-nature:
Geak-of-Nature Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
When I complain about a DD, it's not because of technique or beauty, it's simply because the deviation was submitted to the wrong category, such as a photomanip in one of the regular photography areas.  And no, I don't complain to the artist.
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014  Professional General Artist
We try, as CV's to move deviations into the appropriate gallery if they're clearly mis-cats. Sometimes, however, they fit into multiple categories :)
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:icongeak-of-nature:
Geak-of-Nature Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
I understand, and I am reasonable about things.  ;)  Thanks you for the work that you do and for replying!
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014  Professional General Artist
No problem at all! Have a fantastic day :hug:
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jennystokes Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014  Professional General Artist
i agree with what you say............Art is changing.
When you consider how many Famous artists were shoved out because their Art was not the Norm.
I have been having  'ongoing' Journal Entries about why images are declined (and I might add with no reason attached!)
I am Founder and Co-Founder of several Groups and I hesitate to say what is good and bad Art.
I just look and see and we are always in a state of flux.
Keep doing what you are doing and take no notice of 'complainers.'
:)
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014  Professional General Artist
:nod:
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:iconvespera:
vespera Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
:clap: also - I always tell people who complain on the lit side that you really can't complain and need to stfu if you aren't suggesting DDs yourself.
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SingingFlames Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
:clap:

I love browsing the DDs everyday. They've expanded my exposure to art, and allowed me to see and appreciate different styles that I wouldn't normally experience. I don't always "get" a certain piece, but I fully understand that everyone's tastes are different, and there are many different galleries of dA (not of all match my tastes). But I've come to appreciate and enjoy several new styles which I never noticed before my daily perusing of the DDs. Thank you to all the CVs for that! :dalove:
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
and that's OK :) There is a lot of art out there that we just may not connect with but that doesn't mean it isn't art to someone else. :heart:
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SingingFlames Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I complete agree. :)
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2013  Professional General Artist
:)
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:iconsparklydest:
SparklyDest Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
:clap:
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
:heart:
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:iconvalasedai:
ValaSedai Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wonderfully written! :clap:
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
Thank you :)
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:iconvesner:
vesner Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I am very proud and grateful for each and every DD I got as I am proud of every DD that got featured because of my suggestion. I appreciate all sorts of art and even if I don't like a specific genre, I am able to point out exceptional works in it and at least try to express in words what value I find in it.
I also do understand what art is and how many different approaches one can have to see the beauty of something that at first glance could be called ugly.

It doesn't change the fact that, indeed, some DDs are simply horrible. Sometimes there is just that one work among the 30+ others that makes me cringe. I cringe even more because I always take a closer to look to try and understand what happened. Maybe the DD was given because of the circumstance in which the work was created? Maybe it's a part of some big project? Maybe there are some details I can't find? Or maybe there's simply a good story behind it.
But let's face it, sometimes it's just all nope, nope, nope, nooope.

DD is a feature, yes. There are no prizes, there is no cash, no awards. The value of a DD did decrease through the years though. I remember when just a few years back people were really trying their best to get a DD. A feature. A confirmation that their skills are worth showing to millions of people. It was a milestone that everyone struggled to reach in a very competitive but also fun and creative atmosphere.

Nowadays the approach to DDs seems to slowly shift into the "everyone's special" approach which rewards everyone and no-one at the same time. We're highlighting mediocrity which we see on a regular basis and don't really need a special place to see more of it.

I browse DDs every day and suggest them once or twice a week. I really do enjoy it and that's why I'm expressing my concerns about something I grew to like so much. The features didn't get drastically worse and they are still very enjoyable, but unfortunately the slight but constant decline is still visible. I really hope it's just temporary change due to the change of rules and hope to see more great art in the DD section!
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
So far, the DD's you've suggested to me have all been fantastic, thank you for your suggestions :) As far as the quality concerns, all the CV's are different with all sorts of tastes. Some represent galleries that otherwise might not be as appreciated as say, a beautiful digitally painted master piece by a popular artists. It's featured because its found to be impressive or otherwise interesting enough to deserve the attention of the community for a day (by the discretion of the CV). While we like to feature all across the galleries we do our best to try and find the best example of those galleries to feature :)

I would also like to say kodus for actually looking at the art for what it is, even if it's trying to discern the source of the feature. :thumbsup:

Thank you for your insight and your input! Speaking for myself, I always like to hear the thoughts of the community and feedback. It's a great help in stepping forward in the right direction :heart:
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iingo Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There are soo many beautiful artist out here in this world and they all deserve to be recognized for their talents! I try to find deviations both quality and quantity. I still think if theirs enough quality in a picture then there's quantity also put into it.

But you know what? A DD is a feature and they're beautiful no matter what!
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
:heart:
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Stygma Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Usually, even if I don't like a DD, I can see the qualities that make it a DD. And, sometimes I don't... It's not usual, but sometimes I wonder if it's been featured by mistake! ^^; Guess not. Maybe it's more about the category than the art itself (a bit like stock images).
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
As mentioned, there are a lot of galleries and sub categories being featured. Art being exposed that otherwise might not be :)

Stock is a gallery and perfectly eligible to be given a DD :) It's resourceful and great for artists.
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:iconstygma:
Stygma Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't argue that stock doesn't deserve a place in DD. It's just that often, stock don't have the same level of quality than other pictures (that's why I used it as an example). But they do have a purpose and are often interesting as stock. So, when I see other type of art who don't seem to fit in the overall quality of usual DD's, I look at the category and often find that it's an unusual category. Therefore my assumption (read here opinion) that this deviation got a DD for the sake of diversity more than quality and originality. But yet again, it's juste my point of view. Maybe someone else think that this deviation is a masterpiece! :)

Anyway, diversity is good.
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:iconcarlosferreira-art:
carlosferreira-art Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Let's be honnest here please, a DD is meant to give more focus on some great artists over here, but there are a lot of them who don't deserve a DD over other wonderful artists out there. It's as simple as this: the people who select the DD's know who they put on the DD list, friends of friends of friends, it's here and everywhere. For example stock DD, as a user of stocks it bothers me to see such wonderful stocks who are not featured there, but instead Maria Amanda for example (and she's a wonderful stocker, I use her stocks a lot) she get's a lot of DD, and why? because she knows everyone, she's a "deviantart famous". I just think DD's should be more impartial and give everyone the chance to show their works.
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:iconlivholland:
livholland Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Yeah that is something that bothers me as well. Sure it would be nice to help a friend get a DD but unless they actually are extraordinary (and it is hard to be objective when it comes to friends sometimes) then we are helping in creation of the very problem we complain about in the first place.
As much as I understand that there are different tastes everywhere I still am convinces that the quality of DDs has fallen head first. Most of them cannot compare to DDs from two or more years ago. Not because they do not depict some beauty. But because they are lacking in technique, originality and creative skills. Which sends us back to the very definition of art that was used here as an argument.
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:iconcarlosferreira-art:
carlosferreira-art Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I couldn't agreee more =)
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:iconlivholland:
livholland Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2013  Student Digital Artist
:)
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:iconelandria:
Elandria Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
I'm somewhat confused by your claims to be fair. The deviant stock provider you mention has had 2 DDs in her 18 months of being on the site - not exactly a good example of somebody who has "a lot of DDs". Her first DD was given to a new member of the community who was then completely unknown, and her second one was given because she had continued to provide excellent resources and was suggested by dozens of artists who appreciated that. How can she have been "deviantart famous" when her first DD was given only a few months after she joined the site?

As I like repeating myself I will say that the community volunteer team do not, and never will give DDs because of favoritism or anything to do with knowing other people who submit to the galleries we look after.

As further evidence will show if you are interested enough to look, last month there were approximately 60 daily deviations given by myself and ^PirateLotus-Stock for stock and resources. Off the top of my head I estimate that over 60% of those given were to deviants who were either completely new to providing stock and resources, or had never received a DD before. I would say favoritism is furthest from the truth.

How many stock images do you suggest for DDs a month?
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:iconcarlosferreira-art:
carlosferreira-art Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
First of all I said Maria Amanda but I could say other artists, I remember her because I love her stock, but yes, she is a "deviantart famous" otherwise you would not know who I was talking about. And yes you may not chose by favoritism, but everywhere people do it, if I was a close friend of you and I was trying to be noticed as an artist and asked you to put a picture of mine as a DD you would not do it? It's completelly normal, I just think there are a lot of great artists out there, and I personally suggest a lot of them, photomanipulators, photographers and stock providers, and none of them was featured on the DD list. That's what I'm debating here, and it's only my oppinion, I'm not complaining or accusing anyone, but sometimes I see some artists being featured a lot, when there are dozens out there waitting for a chance. And per month, it depends, but usually I try the same picture 3 times
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:iconelandria:
Elandria Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
I know of her because I DDed her and I know a vast array of stock providers since it goes with the territory. You do realize that being part of a community and being a community volunteer generally means you do actually speak to, and are friends, with an awful lot of people.
No, I wouldn't - unless it was an excellent piece of stock or resource, regardless of if I was friends with you or not. In fact being popular or being friends with a CV usually means you are less likely to be given a DD - for this very reason.
In your interpretation, is having 2 DD's "a lot" then, because most people would only consider 6+ DDs to be "a lot".
If a suggestion isn't accepted by the CV the first time, why would you re-suggest it over and over again? :confused:
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carlosferreira-art Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I re-suggest it over and over again because I believe the CV's receive a lot of suggestions per day, so it's like a "hear me please!" lol xD
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:iconelandria:
Elandria Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
I think we get fewer suggestions than you would like to believe, and anything thats repeating itself only creates frustration and annoyance.
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:iconcarlosferreira-art:
carlosferreira-art Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Ok, sorry about that, but many people told me that you usually get a lot of suggestions, so if we want to be "heard" we might send repeatedly
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:iconelandria:
Elandria Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
No idea who has told you that, but its not true - some galleries do get a lot of suggestions, others don't, but sending repeats is pointless.
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KovoWolf Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Professional General Artist
You say that "a DD is meant to give more focus on some great artists over here, but there are a lot of them who don't deserve a DD over other wonderful artists" yet in your last sentence you say "I just think DD's should be more impartial and give everyone the chance to show their works."

Your first statement implies that a Daily Deviation should be given to great artists vs. other artists who might have beautiful art, but not use the same 'technique' as other 'great artists'. Your last comment implies that everyone should be given a chance to have their work shared with the rest of DeviantART.

While I understand what your getting at, it's slightly contradicting. The point of this article is to go through the difference between quality vs technique. The artist doesn't need to be 'great' or well known. If great artists where just featured then there would be no room for diversity. That's what's so beautiful about art and that's what I, personally, like to feature as a CV. Art that isn't well known or perhaps unappreciated. I know a few other CV's feel the same as well! Also, if there are some great stock artists that you think deserve a DD then by all means, please send suggestions to the stock art CV's! :heart:

The link that ^Astralseed provided is a great resource as well :)
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:iconcarlosferreira-art:
carlosferreira-art Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I always suggest other stocks/photomanipulations that have never been on the DD list, I know you receive a lot of suggestions everyday, but there are some artists that have a lot of DD, people already know them, that's the point I'm debating :) but thanks for the explanation ^^
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:iconkovowolf:
KovoWolf Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
Excellent about suggesting DD's!
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:iconaeirmid:
Aeirmid Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013   Digital Artist
Who are you suggesting the photomanips to? I don't have any from you in my stack. Maybe they are going to the wrong CV?
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:iconcarlosferreira-art:
carlosferreira-art Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Moonbeam13, ekud and you, those are the 3 CV's I have :S I send them by note... To suggest a deviation we might send a note to the CV's right?
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:iconaeirmid:
Aeirmid Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013   Digital Artist
right, for photomanips you can send a note to me. :)
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:iconastralseed:
Astralseed Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Professional General Artist
Back in August ^SanguineVamp wrote a great article which addresses some of things you bring up here, I think it might be worth a read. PE: Daily Deviations The Myth and The Legend
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:iconcarlosferreira-art:
carlosferreira-art Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks for sharing this wonderful article.
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alexandrasalas Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
:thumbsup:
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KovoWolf Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Professional General Artist
:heart:
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Thiefoworld Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013
I read that last thing as "bronyquotes.com" ... :iconawestruckplz:
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Magical525 Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
lol
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Astralseed Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Professional General Artist
I would have laughed if that were a real website.
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:iconthiefoworld:
Thiefoworld Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013
It sounds like a real website, now I'm kinda surprised it doesn't actually exist :lol:
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Kenny-Winker Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Professional Interface Designer
Bronies don't actually talk they just :stare:
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:iconastralseed:
Astralseed Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Professional General Artist
I know, I checked to see if it did.. I thought I could link something ridiculous from that site to you but it doesn't exist :cries:
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PizzaPotatoNBacon Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Student General Artist
XD
Cannot unsee.
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